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		<title>By: Shelby Crabtree</title>
		<link>http://hardscrabbletimes.com/2009/10/06/lets-move-beyond-corporate-health-care/#comment-1128</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shelby Crabtree]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 04:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re right, I would feel much better if I knew you and your family had affordable health care instead of high premiums and huge deductables.  There just has to be a better way to get there.  Love you bunches and bunches... Shelby]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, I would feel much better if I knew you and your family had affordable health care instead of high premiums and huge deductables.  There just has to be a better way to get there.  Love you bunches and bunches&#8230; Shelby</p>
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		<title>By: Hal Walter</title>
		<link>http://hardscrabbletimes.com/2009/10/06/lets-move-beyond-corporate-health-care/#comment-1127</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hal Walter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 21:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shelby, Of course I have tremendous respect for George&#039;s and other service people&#039;s service to this country. This isn&#039;t about whether George and your family deserve to have health care for your service. Of course you do. This is about whether the rest of us deserve to have health care. Don&#039;t you think we do? Love, Hal]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shelby, Of course I have tremendous respect for George&#8217;s and other service people&#8217;s service to this country. This isn&#8217;t about whether George and your family deserve to have health care for your service. Of course you do. This is about whether the rest of us deserve to have health care. Don&#8217;t you think we do? Love, Hal</p>
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		<title>By: Shelby Crabtree</title>
		<link>http://hardscrabbletimes.com/2009/10/06/lets-move-beyond-corporate-health-care/#comment-1126</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shelby Crabtree]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, usually I like your articles but I had to stop reading after you grouped VA Benefits into your litte bundle of programs.  George gave 25 years his life to the government/military, protecting our freedoms at home, and deploying to Afghanistan to earn this coverage. Some people pay for their insurance coverage with money, others with their life.  I know we don&#039;t agree on this, but I love you as always!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, usually I like your articles but I had to stop reading after you grouped VA Benefits into your litte bundle of programs.  George gave 25 years his life to the government/military, protecting our freedoms at home, and deploying to Afghanistan to earn this coverage. Some people pay for their insurance coverage with money, others with their life.  I know we don&#8217;t agree on this, but I love you as always!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave TenEyck</title>
		<link>http://hardscrabbletimes.com/2009/10/06/lets-move-beyond-corporate-health-care/#comment-1091</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave TenEyck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, Hal we are jack ass brothers for life.

We&#039;ll just agree to disagree.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Hal we are jack ass brothers for life.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll just agree to disagree.</p>
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		<title>By: Hal Walter</title>
		<link>http://hardscrabbletimes.com/2009/10/06/lets-move-beyond-corporate-health-care/#comment-1090</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hal Walter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dave, you know, we can disagree on this and still be brothers. You do know that, don&#039;t you? I have a difficult time believing I will ever miss paying for what I have, which is basically a joke of a &quot;major medical&quot; policy through a major insurance company. I feel certain that if I ever need anything beyond my deductible, they will do their best to weasel out. For another perspective, rent the movie &quot;Sicko&quot;  or read T.R. Reid&#039;s &quot;The Healing of America.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, you know, we can disagree on this and still be brothers. You do know that, don&#8217;t you? I have a difficult time believing I will ever miss paying for what I have, which is basically a joke of a &#8220;major medical&#8221; policy through a major insurance company. I feel certain that if I ever need anything beyond my deductible, they will do their best to weasel out. For another perspective, rent the movie &#8220;Sicko&#8221;  or read T.R. Reid&#8217;s &#8220;The Healing of America.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave TenEyck</title>
		<link>http://hardscrabbletimes.com/2009/10/06/lets-move-beyond-corporate-health-care/#comment-1089</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave TenEyck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s clear you are no businessman because there is no such thing as paying nothing for health care. I, more than you, will pay, but pay we all will. And it will be more than now for poorer care.

I feel sad that you believe the things you do, you will appreciate what you had only when it&#039;s gone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s clear you are no businessman because there is no such thing as paying nothing for health care. I, more than you, will pay, but pay we all will. And it will be more than now for poorer care.</p>
<p>I feel sad that you believe the things you do, you will appreciate what you had only when it&#8217;s gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Hal Walter</title>
		<link>http://hardscrabbletimes.com/2009/10/06/lets-move-beyond-corporate-health-care/#comment-1088</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hal Walter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dave, When in doubt, blame the lawyers . . .

In this country we don’t trust anything we take seriously to the so-called “free-enterprise” system, which is a myth anyway — we don’t have any sort of free-enterprise system. Or is this the same “free-enterprize” system that ran amuck without any regulation and then needed bailouts for the banking industry and automobile manufacturers. If we had free enterprise, instead of “enterprize,” those businesses would have driven themselves to extinction.

Additionally, we don’t trust the private sector to provide military, police and fire protection, management of public lands and resources, airline traffic control, hell, we don’t even leave animal control to private industry.

So why would we leave health care to private industry, especially since it has so badly failed us.

I’m no businessman, but wouldn’t it be better for your business if instead of paying $550,000 a year for health care for your employees you paid nothing? This is how it is in most civilized countries (by the way, the last time I checked the U.S. ranked right in there with Cuba in health care), and even in some uncivilized coutries like the United Kingdom.

Yes, it does sound like a bit of a matra, Dave. The same one we’ve been hearing since the AMA hired a marketing firm back in the age of McCarthyism to come up with the term “socialized medicine.”

When will we move on to a better system?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, When in doubt, blame the lawyers . . .</p>
<p>In this country we don’t trust anything we take seriously to the so-called “free-enterprise” system, which is a myth anyway — we don’t have any sort of free-enterprise system. Or is this the same “free-enterprize” system that ran amuck without any regulation and then needed bailouts for the banking industry and automobile manufacturers. If we had free enterprise, instead of “enterprize,” those businesses would have driven themselves to extinction.</p>
<p>Additionally, we don’t trust the private sector to provide military, police and fire protection, management of public lands and resources, airline traffic control, hell, we don’t even leave animal control to private industry.</p>
<p>So why would we leave health care to private industry, especially since it has so badly failed us.</p>
<p>I’m no businessman, but wouldn’t it be better for your business if instead of paying $550,000 a year for health care for your employees you paid nothing? This is how it is in most civilized countries (by the way, the last time I checked the U.S. ranked right in there with Cuba in health care), and even in some uncivilized coutries like the United Kingdom.</p>
<p>Yes, it does sound like a bit of a matra, Dave. The same one we’ve been hearing since the AMA hired a marketing firm back in the age of McCarthyism to come up with the term “socialized medicine.”</p>
<p>When will we move on to a better system?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave TenEyck</title>
		<link>http://hardscrabbletimes.com/2009/10/06/lets-move-beyond-corporate-health-care/#comment-1086</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave TenEyck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doctors should always be held accountable, but the lotto mentality of most lawsuits has to stop. It is bankrupting all businesses, but specifically the medical industry. Simple tort reform is all that is needed. Place some limits on awards, specifically pain and suffering awards. Limit the contingency fees attorneys can charge. Simple and effective.

Do you think that doctors and hospitals will get better under a government plan? If so, you&#039;d better think again. And what does the conservative media have to do with anything? Are you implying I only repeat a mantra?

I am informed, buy $550,000 worth of health care for my employees each year. I see the system up close.

I&#039;m sure we can all agree we need change. The 1 trillion dollar question is how we do it and how much more it will cost. The free market almost always works best. I am constantly surprised by yours and others lack of faith in free enterprise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doctors should always be held accountable, but the lotto mentality of most lawsuits has to stop. It is bankrupting all businesses, but specifically the medical industry. Simple tort reform is all that is needed. Place some limits on awards, specifically pain and suffering awards. Limit the contingency fees attorneys can charge. Simple and effective.</p>
<p>Do you think that doctors and hospitals will get better under a government plan? If so, you&#8217;d better think again. And what does the conservative media have to do with anything? Are you implying I only repeat a mantra?</p>
<p>I am informed, buy $550,000 worth of health care for my employees each year. I see the system up close.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure we can all agree we need change. The 1 trillion dollar question is how we do it and how much more it will cost. The free market almost always works best. I am constantly surprised by yours and others lack of faith in free enterprise.</p>
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		<title>By: Hal Walter</title>
		<link>http://hardscrabbletimes.com/2009/10/06/lets-move-beyond-corporate-health-care/#comment-1085</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hal Walter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 03:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dave, According to the New England Journal of Medicine, the health-care system (doctors, hospitals, etc.) constitute the third leading cause of death in this country, behind cancer and heart disease. Are you saying doctors should not be accountable, or that they should not be eligible for malpractice insurance? You should find out who T.R. Reid is. He&#039;s thoroughly explored and written about other countries&#039; health care systems and knows more than the conservative mainstream media on the subject.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, According to the New England Journal of Medicine, the health-care system (doctors, hospitals, etc.) constitute the third leading cause of death in this country, behind cancer and heart disease. Are you saying doctors should not be accountable, or that they should not be eligible for malpractice insurance? You should find out who T.R. Reid is. He&#8217;s thoroughly explored and written about other countries&#8217; health care systems and knows more than the conservative mainstream media on the subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave TenEyck</title>
		<link>http://hardscrabbletimes.com/2009/10/06/lets-move-beyond-corporate-health-care/#comment-1083</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave TenEyck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t heard anyone write about the causes of the rapid increase in health care costs.

1. Malpractice insurance costs doctors roughly 50% of their revenues. This is due to our tort system encouraging lawsuits as a form of lotto, but we all are paying for the insurance that doctors must have.

2. Limited competition. Insurance companies are limited on a state by state basis. Get rid of that limitations and you can choose a company that treats you better. Choice is always good.

There are bad people we run into in life, and there are also bad companies we deal with. Choose your company well, and if you make a mistake sometime, change your company, but don&#039;t throw out the whole system. 

The countries that have nationalized health care suffer with even higher costs, poor access, and poor care. Cancer death rates in these countries are higher than in the USA free market care. Also, health research will slow down dramatically as funding sources dry up. Also, these other countries have benefited from the fabulous advances in health care made here.

Is our system perfect? NO! Can it be improved? YES! Can the problems it has be fixed? ABSOLUTELY!

Collectivist state-ism is the result of government health care and you won&#039;t like it. Your liberty will be gone.  

By the way, who is T.R. Reid?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t heard anyone write about the causes of the rapid increase in health care costs.</p>
<p>1. Malpractice insurance costs doctors roughly 50% of their revenues. This is due to our tort system encouraging lawsuits as a form of lotto, but we all are paying for the insurance that doctors must have.</p>
<p>2. Limited competition. Insurance companies are limited on a state by state basis. Get rid of that limitations and you can choose a company that treats you better. Choice is always good.</p>
<p>There are bad people we run into in life, and there are also bad companies we deal with. Choose your company well, and if you make a mistake sometime, change your company, but don&#8217;t throw out the whole system. </p>
<p>The countries that have nationalized health care suffer with even higher costs, poor access, and poor care. Cancer death rates in these countries are higher than in the USA free market care. Also, health research will slow down dramatically as funding sources dry up. Also, these other countries have benefited from the fabulous advances in health care made here.</p>
<p>Is our system perfect? NO! Can it be improved? YES! Can the problems it has be fixed? ABSOLUTELY!</p>
<p>Collectivist state-ism is the result of government health care and you won&#8217;t like it. Your liberty will be gone.  </p>
<p>By the way, who is T.R. Reid?</p>
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